'You don’t get paid $11 million to graduate kids.' Josh Pate on Clemson’s future

Clemson’s offseason just got louder. Josh Pate challenges whether Swinney’s approach still works at the top level.
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The end of Clemson’s season has reopened a familiar debate about the program’s future under Dabo Swinney.

The Clemson Tigers closed 2025 with a 22–10 loss to Penn State Nittany Lions in the Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium, finishing 7–6 and snapping a 14-year streak of postseason wins.

In the aftermath, Swinney reiterated a philosophy that has defined his tenure, stressing that his mission extends beyond wins and losses.

“That’s my calling in life, that’s my purpose,” Swinney said. “I know everybody wants me to win football games, but it’s more about how I win. That’s what matters to me more than anything.”

Swinney emphasized player development, faith and family, saying those priorities have never changed, even as expectations around the program have grown. He also pointed to Clemson’s broader body of work under his leadership.

“We’ve won a lot more than we’ve lost, and we’ll continue to win a lot more than we’ve lost,” Swinney said.

Those comments drew a measured response from analyst Josh Pate, who addressed Clemson’s trajectory on his show Sunday. Pate acknowledged the sincerity of Swinney’s beliefs but questioned whether they fully address the demands of modern college football.

“That’s very authentic,” Pate said. “That’s Dabo’s worldview. There’s nothing inauthentic about it.”

Pate, however, argued that success at the highest level requires more than values alone, particularly in an era shaped by NIL opportunities and the transfer portal.

“You don’t get paid $11 million to graduate kids,” Pate said, noting that incentives in college football are still tied to wins and championships. “You never hang banners for graduation rates.”

The broader concern, Pate said, is adaptability. While Swinney’s principles remain clear, Pate questioned whether Clemson can consistently compete nationally without adjusting how those principles are applied in a rapidly changing sport.

“There are other people who can lead with values,” Pate said. “But they’re also able to adapt. That’s critical, especially in a league as competitive as college football.”

Clemson enters the offseason facing significant roster turnover, with departures to the transfer portal and NFL draft already underway. Swinney and defensive coordinator Tom Allen have both indicated the Tigers will be more aggressive in roster construction, signaling a possible shift in approach as Clemson looks to rebound in 2026.

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